He Turns Dead Trees Into Jet Fuel
Change and Triumph with Tene Williams
Change & Triumph with Tené Williams is a podcast about navigating life’s biggest pivots—in career, family, and purpose. Through candid conversations with real people,
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He Turns Dead Trees Into Jet Fuel

S2 E6 • Aug 4, 2026 • 51 mins

Tené Williams and Keith Gillard discuss his journey from early environmentalism influenced by Dr. Suzuki to his ventures in clean energy investments like ESS. They explore venture capital strategies with a focus on people and reflect on lessons learned from misaligned partnerships. The conversation shifts to ESG versus impact investing, future risk management, and the resilience needed in founders. They consider the role of AI in hard tech, material science, and its implications for job markets. Tené shares insights on passive income, while Keith talks about Cistero's mission in sustainable aviation fuel and managing forest waste. The episode concludes with Keith's personal change and triumph.

Key Points

  • Resilience and the ability to pivot are crucial for entrepreneurs to navigate market changes and overcome failures.
  • ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) measures the risks a company faces from the external world, while impact measures the tangible positive effects a company has on the world.
  • Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) can be produced from wood waste, providing a renewable alternative to fossil fuels and enhancing supply chain security.

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